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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2002 1:19 am    Post subject: An own domain and web site for the MPV? Reply with quote

Hi everybody,
I think we've made an amazing progress over the year since the MPV online
community was formed. Now we have over 230 registered subscribers and tons
others who just lurk and read the messages online. The web site also grew
and now contains a lot of useful technical information about the MPV. I
think it could be a good time to move on and form something bigger than just
a small web site and a mailing list. What do you thinks?
First, I believe we could be better off with having a separate web domain
for the web site that would be easier to remember and which would show off
who we are and what we do.
I have noticed that most people who subscribed to this list read it online
and opted not to receive messages via email. So I thought probably we just
could have an online message board right on the web site with the ability to
create threads of conversations and have good search capabilities.
Then, to further promote the group, we can have some kind of special
incentives to the members. Many car clubs have special participation
programs with certain dealerships and part stores offering discounts for
parts and service for members. We could even attract some people from Mazda
to participate in our discussions and answer some questions that we sure
have. In other words, if we are more proactive, we can get much farther than
we currently are. What do you think?
I'm sure, many of you participate in other car forums and clubs, and
possibly have some other ideas on how to promote our group and make it more
valuable for all of us. If you have any suggestions, please let me know.
I was just thinking about the domain name for the web site and I have some
suggestions. Let's decide what would be the best options:
www.mpv2000.com
www.mpvclub.com
www.mpvtech.com
www.mpvfan.com
www.mazdampv.org - could have legal issues with Mazda though
Any other suggestions?
Also, about finacial side of things. It is possible to get a decent two year
web hosting plan and the domain name for about $200-300 with no banner or
unwanted ads. Would anyone be interested in providing some financial help to
cover part of this cost?
Is there anyone proficient enough with CGI/PHP to provide help in creating
and maintaining the web site? Also web design help would be appreciated.
And, obviously, site content is definitely wanted. If you have some
information about new TSBs, recalls or other documents related to MPV, be
sure to let me know.
Ok, that's it from me for now. If you have any ideas, suggestions or want to
contribute to the community growth in any way, just contact me.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2002 1:34 am    Post subject: An own domain and web site for the MPV? Reply with quote

Alex
I think you have a great idea about an mpv web site. Maybe you are already
aware of a similar site for the odyssey at odyclub.com. If not, you might
want to look at it for some further ideas. "mpvclub.com" sounds good but
anything with "mpv" in it would be fine. Thanks for all of your efforts.
Larry
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2002 1:43 am    Post subject: An own domain and web site for the MPV? Reply with quote

Alex,
Please take at look at the following site. Once there
click on the forum link. It is one of the best I have
ever found for trading information. This particular
forum has over 5k members. I think when you read some
of the post you will see why.
http://www.vintage-mustang.com/
John
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2002 1:50 am    Post subject: An own domain and web site for the MPV? Reply with quote

Larry,
Yes, I'm aware of odyclub.com (was visiting it even when it was
honda-odyssey.com and when Honda claimed their trademark and seized the
domain Smile. However apart from their message board, I don't like the web
site that much. There are a lot of other fine examples of where I would like
to go:
http://www.miata.net/
http://www.protegetech.com/
http://www.mx-3.com/
There are much more than that. One thing is certain, there's not a single
one successful club/web site which is maintained by only one person which
has a day job and a family Smile Well, you got where I'm driving at, right?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2002 2:34 am    Post subject: An own domain and web site for the MPV? Reply with quote

How about...
www.mpvonline.com or www.clubmpv.com ?
I like the idea of having an online discussion board.
Also, you know, once you get the domain, you *gotta*
sell window stickers so we mpv owners can identify
each other ;0)
Albert
=====
Stargazer's Garage
1999 Passat GLX Satin Silver
2002 MPV ES/GFX Black Mica
Info and pictures at http://istargazer.ca
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2002 4:02 am    Post subject: An own domain and web site for the MPV? Reply with quote

Hi Alex,



Count my vote for mpvclub.com, or
mpvclub.net. I'd gladly ante
up generously for an ad-free site. We
could have stickers made also, or Tshirts, and sell them to folks to generate
operating funds. I'm not
versed in cgi, so I'm no help there.
Are you checking on collocating the website somewhere, or what's
your idea there? I believe we'll
have many more members w/a more catchy domain than being here in yahoogroups,
and I think we've maybe outgrown it.
There's some good programs out there to use. I know VWVortex and Swedespeed use Infopop
( www.infopop.com ), I think it's Ultimate
BB vers. 5.47 or something. Anyway,
it's not half bad as a forum program, imho.



Is that $200-300 figure Canadian or US
dollars, and I suspect that's an annual fee, right?



/Scott
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2002 9:34 am    Post subject: An own domain and web site for the MPV? Reply with quote

Alex,
If you want, you are welcome to use my web server, for free. I am running
the latest version of Apache on Windows 2000 and have 768/768 DSL to my
house. I could probaby run UBB or similar software on the same box, or add
one to my network.
-DMC
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2002 12:28 am    Post subject: An own domain and web site for the MPV? Reply with quote

I was the owner/moderator of a couple of YahooGroups with 400(+) members
that very quickly outgrew the YahooGroups. We especially outgrew their
reliability, which for my groups was very poor at times with the messages,
files, photos, or even the entire site being unavailable for days at a time.
If you've ever had to contact the YahooGroups folks for any tech support as
a Group owner, you have probably come to the same realization that I did --
a robot must be operating the YahooGroups because I've NEVER had a person
respond to me. However, even given those "dark" periods, the YahooGroups
definitely serves a purpose, and I think that purpose is usually a good
startup for a group. As the owner of the Group, I think that you will be
MUCH happier having your own self-contained domain, website, etc., since the
reliability will greatly improve as will your (and designated other's)
ability to solve any problems that will popup since you'll have complete
access.
Although I'm relatively new to the group and should be forbidden from
discussing the topic of infant car seats, I do have quite a bit of
experience at maintaining, modifying, and tailoring existing CGI/PERL
scripts. I can't write my own from scratch, but I've been very successful
at modifying existing ones to suit my needs, even adding my own original
code (in small doses).
For a message board system, I've tried quite a few, both off-the-shelf and
free, and I highly recommend YaBB. The name may sound funny -- it stands
for, "Yet Another Bulletin Board", which makes it all the more funny and
shows you the authors had quite a sense of humor. However, it is completely
free, very reliable, very well-supported, and offers great features and
canned modifications like email notification of replies or even new topics
(not quite the extent of the YahooGroups, but close), chat functions,
instant message functions, file upload/attachments, etc. Basically, it's
the same look as UBB and the other off-the-shelf ($$$) message boards, but
it's truly free. Great stuff and very easily configurable to look like the
rest of the website for a real pro look. It's very easy to get up and
running as well. Anyway, that's my two cents on the message board script,
and regardless of what script you use, I will offer my services to help with
it.
For hosting your site, don't feel like you have have it hosted close to
home. With the internet, it doesn't matter. I recommend Prohosting.com --
they offer a lot of storage and reliability for a low price, and that
includes unlimited email addresses for the domain, visit statistics, etc.
If you use Prohosting.com for your domain, you can also get an ISP account
with their Shadowlink.net ISP services for only US$12.95 per month and they
have phone numbers all over North America. Worth taking a peek at anyway.
I will also participate financially, as I know the time and $$$ that such a
site can require of the owner.
Thanks for all your efforts with this YahooGroup and any future incarnation!
Chris
02 MPV ES
"MPoohV"
>
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2002 2:08 am    Post subject: An own domain and web site for the MPV? Reply with quote

Chris,
Definitely thanks for the hint with YaBB. I was looking at InfoPop's UBB
first, but they ask $200 a year. Then I found vBulletin for $160 one time
fee. But now with YaBB we can have virtually the same for free. That's even
better. Great!
Anyway, I have registered www.mpvclub.com today. Finally! Will be online as
soon as it propagates through DNS. One time I have appreciated Yahoo ads
though Smile A company called iPowerWeb advertised their web hosting services
there and after reviewing all they have to offer I decided to go with them.
For $7.95 a month we can have 200 MB of web space, 20 GB transfer, free
domain name, 150 POP3 accounts, MySQL, CGI, PHP, FTP, streaming audio/video,
SSL and many other things. I thought it was not that bad so for US$95 I
subscribed for one year. I already uploaded the old web site there. The web
server connection is slower that I'm currently using on Vakcer site but
considering that the latter costs $50/month, one can expect it, right?
I will definitely use your CGI and web server maintenance skills in the
future. In meantime, I decided to learn PHP. I thought, what the heck. I'm
quite good at C/C++, Pascal, Delphi, VB, 8080 and 80x86 assembly languages,
so PHP shouldn't be that tough to master after all Smile I already visited
www.php.net and downloaded the manual. So soon you can expect a really
dynamic web site with searchable TSB database and other cool stuff (like MPV
registry) Smile
Once again, thanks to everyone who showed your support and just for being
part of MPV online community!!!
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2002 1:20 am    Post subject: An own domain and web site for the MPV? Reply with quote

Congrats on the new site! If I'm not mistaken, the YaBB group is working on
a PHP version as well, so learning PHP would definitely benefit. There are
plenty of other cannned and free PHP utilities, programs, etc., that could
make get the site up and going all that much easier. However, with all
those programming languages under your belt, CGI scripts should be vanilla
icecream for you to figure out (just like PHP). Most of my real programming
skills comes with various versions and flavors of compileable BASIC (with
the token college credits in PASCAL, Fortran, COBOL, etc., and I was able to
figure it out enough to do my own modifications to existing scripts.
That is a good deal on web hosting, although with an active message board
you may run out of bandwidth quickly. Even a large message board will only
take about 1/4 of that space because the messages are only text.
Well, most importantly, make sure you have FUN with the new site and don't
make it a chore for yourself. Be sure and post messages here (or eventually
there) asking for $$$ -- there's nothing wrong with that, and we shouldn't
expect to get such great information and resources for free. And don't
hesitate to let me know if you want a moderator, junior admin person,
whatever, to help out with tasks associated with the new site. I'll be
happy to help.
Chris
02 MPV ES
"MPoohV"
>
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2002 3:24 am    Post subject: An own domain and web site for the MPV? Reply with quote

Chris,
> That is a good deal on web hosting, although with an active message board
> you may run out of bandwidth quickly. Even a large message board will
only
> take about 1/4 of that space because the messages are only text.
We'll see. Currently we have 20GB/month transfer which seems pretty good.
Plus I installed the new PHP based YaBB which is said to be much more
optimized as far as bandwidth and CPU usage is concerned. I'll be monitoring
the stats over next months to see the progress.
> Well, most importantly, make sure you have FUN with the new site and don't
> make it a chore for yourself. Be sure and post messages here (or
eventually
> there) asking for $$$ -- there's nothing wrong with that, and we shouldn't
> expect to get such great information and resources for free. And don't
> hesitate to let me know if you want a moderator, junior admin person,
> whatever, to help out with tasks associated with the new site. I'll be
> happy to help.
Definitely we'll need some moderators on various boards. If anyone wants to
take ownership of certain message boards on mpvclub.com forums, let me know.
Also I'd appreciate any help with programming certain parts of the site. I'm
thinking that stuff like photo gallery and MPV registry (for starters)
should be automated so people can upload the information by themselves, not
me posting it manually as it's been so far. Any volunteers? I'm thinking
that PHP would be the best way to go here, but CGI is an alternative. That's
not an emergency of course at this time...
-----
Alex.
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