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PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2002 12:20 am    Post subject: More roof rack (and waste oil) Reply with quote

I checked the Yakima website this evening, and they still have no
listing for the '02 MPV. Has anyone tried putting a Yakima rack on an
'02 and comfirming that it can work? Since (apparently) there was no
change in the roof line in the area of the doors, what works for the
'00-'01, will probably work on the '02. But as they say on Wall
Street, 'past performance is no guarantee of future results'.
I did pop the Yakima rack back on our '01 LX tonight in anticipation
of a weekend camping/canoeing trip. Since I was taking my time and
playing with (and being helped by!) my five year old at the same time,
it took about twenty minutes. I think it could literally go back on
in five or less without the distractions. Put on the front bars,
measuring back from the top of the windshield, and clamp them down
once they are in the proper location. Put on the rear bars, measure
back from the front bars, and clamp them down once they are where
they belong. Done. Pretty simple. Note that putting them on the
very first time does take longer since you need to adjust the
crossbars with respect to the Q-Towers, and that is a little bit
putsy.
Regarding waste oil: we got the James Bond package on our MPV--well
you figure out what we do with the oil. Though for some reason they
don't recommend using synthetic oil with this feature ;<)
Have a good weekend all-----dan
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2002 11:28 am    Post subject: More roof rack (and waste oil) Reply with quote

Hey Dan, I am a huge Yak fan and I am about to order my 02 MPV and
having a bird over the Yak fit issue.
Anyway, it looks like you got the yak rack on the 01, I assume using
the Yak fit instuctions from? (actually can you send me the fit
instructions, the difference between the q towers front and back and
the difference between the windshield and the front bar and the cross
bar spread) I have carried a lot of stuff up on the top using my
rocketbox and a basket case (i thought I might put bikes up there
sine the van has more space this year (?)) anyway, it is imporant to
me to ensure that I won't be "launching" my stuff down the road.
Sorry for whinning but....
Anyway all the best on the weekend camping trips, imho all cars
should come with yak racks as standard equipment, and forget this
factory stuff. Any advice you can pass along would be helpful.
Thanks and regards
Ken
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2002 11:50 am    Post subject: More roof rack (and waste oil) Reply with quote

Ken--This is what I have for fit on the '01 (I think it is available
on the Yakima website, or certainly if you call their 800 number).
The front clips are the Q34, and the rear are the Q110. The
measurements are:
M1 (distance between inside of towers on front crossbar) 44 1/4"
M2 (windshield to leading edge of tower) 10"
M3 (distance between inside of towers on rear crossbar) 35 5/8"
M4 (center of front crossbar to center of rear crossbar) 36"
On M1 and M3, inside of tower refers to the inner edge of the clamping
part that holds the crossbar.
I put a Karrite Voyager box on the rack, and it works fine. We used
it on an 1850 mile camping trip last fall with no problems. Mostly
put lightweight stuff up there (sleeping bags and pads, tent, etc.).
And no water penetration into the box when it rains!! Note that due
to the specific distances required regarding the crossbar placement
that I had to drill new holes in the bottom of the box in order to
clamp the box to the rack. I have a Yakima box that I don't think I
could adapt for this rack--or at least it would not be as easy to
change as it was to modify the Karrite .
FWIW, our mileage with the box on top was 19.85. Two subsequent trips
without the box (each trip around 2300 miles) yielded mileage of 22.17
(in December) and 23.21 (late March/early April).
Hope this helps--Dan
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2002 12:07 pm    Post subject: More roof rack (and waste oil) Reply with quote

You know, I have the Yakima stuff for the '01, so maybe I'll head over
to the dealer next week and see if I can pop the bars on an '02
they have on the lot and settle the question once and for all. I
think the stuff that fits the '01 ought to fit the '02, and there is
probably no better way to be sure than just to try it.
Well, I am supposed to be packing--not goofing around on the computer
so I'll sign off.--Dan
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2002 12:11 pm    Post subject: More roof rack (and waste oil) Reply with quote

Hey thanks Dan, I hope that the Rocket Box can handle a 36 inch
spread, I just looked on the Yak site and they don't say it won't
work (?). Lots of people online this morning...
Anyway looking at your numbers (I couldn't find them on the Yak site
thanks for sending) I don't see why the 48 in cross bars wouldnt
work )maybe the front baq distance is just too wide for the top of
the tower? I could use the extra 10 inches anyway, always have stuff
to put up there.
The lower milage number is not surprising, but I don't leave the
stuff up there all year, (that is the great thing about the removable
racks). anyway I could talk racks all day, I guess when it comes
down to it they were one of the best puchases that I have made.
Although I begrudged paying so much for something that I thought I
would only use once a year they have come in so handy for me, I keep
them in the truck so they are always handy for when someone buys
something that "will fit in the car, no problem" Smile Have a good and
safe camping trip.
Ken
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2002 12:32 pm    Post subject: More roof rack (and waste oil) Reply with quote

Oh, Dan beat me to it. I was going to say that it'd be simple
enough to test fit the rack at the dealer.
I really cannot see what may have been changed to keep the 00/01 Q-clips
and towers from working. I really like
using the Yak on our MPV, but haven't tried our Rocket Boxes up there,
just the canoe and bikes so far.



/Scott
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2002 3:13 pm    Post subject: More roof rack Reply with quote

I haven't called them, but maybe I'll help be a sqeeky wheel, even though I'm
not currently shopping for an '02. Ken, did the kind folks at Yakima tell you
if they'd actually tried to fit it on an '02? Man, if I had the time today,
I'd go grab the rack and schlep it down to the dealer. I'd gladly eat the
crow, but how could it not fit?
/S
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2002 3:51 pm    Post subject: More roof rack Reply with quote

I just spoke to Yakima (for the umteenth time Wink) they said that the
02 MPV is a very sought after vehicle and they are trying to locate
one to fit it (?) they are aware that this vehicle needs to be fit
and that there have been many requests for it and they are trying
their best to get it done. (They are in Arcata CA, if anyone is
looking for something to do over the weekend Smile
If you guys were able to take it to the dealer to see if it fit the
02 that would be great. Let me know how you make out.
Thanks again
Ken
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2002 4:40 pm    Post subject: More roof rack Reply with quote

Yeah, I've got a few domains there, and it's hosted from 'the farm' in the
house, along w/the exchange server I toy w/. Thx for the compliment...it pales
in comparison so some other folks' around here, and I have little time to keep
it updated. It's really expansive, but only a few pages are available from the
main page. Runs on a 1536/512 cable connection, which has been reliable
enough.
You're not all that young as an MPV owner. Smile The d.w. was only 26 when we
picked up Mochavan, and she's aching for another one. I forget if we did an
age survey before, but I know we did a location survey.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2002 5:19 pm    Post subject: More roof rack Reply with quote

Java,



Never noticed your email address until now...got
your own Domain name and everything.




Nice website, home hosted I would
guess. Man, if I just didn't
have to do that stuff so much at work, I might have time to do it at home. Are you using DSL or something? My cable modem would work fine if I can
convince them to give me an ip address.



Nice family...



Just for giggles, I seem to be a pretty
young MPV owner. I just turned
28. Maybe we could do a survey on
MPV owner ages, seems like an interesting bit of trivia.



See ya,

CWright
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2002 5:38 pm    Post subject: More roof rack Reply with quote

The Yakima guy said that they have not been able to "get" a vehicle
in there to fit, I was not sure what they usually do to get the
vehicle but the guy said that they had actually been circulating a
list of vehicles that they need to "get" and the MPV was on the top
of the list? Anyway I don't think that they have tried yet.
I am with you on the "how can they not fit" point, it seems to me
that if they fit an 01 then they would fit and 02.
Anyway I am having second thoughts about just buying a car...I mean
it isn't that I don't have or am not willing to spend, but really
these dealership types just give me the creeps (actually it is the
creeps that work in the dealerships that give me the willies) (sorry
to all that are offended but really). I just had the AutoBytel
dealer call me...what a jerk...I mean I thought that they were
supposed to be a no hotdog no c________ pricing, no trips to the
business manager etc... man not only would this guy not come to the
table with the AutoBytel commited price, he was working the strong-
arm "act now, this instant, you won't see these deals again for a
long time" speech on me over the phone...what a loser, where do these
salesmen come from....this guy was about as sharp as a cucumber. Can
anyone recomend a dealership in Southern Ontario? Maybe I'll just
get a saturn?! Or keep the Toy on the road for another couple of
years this really is too much...
Sorry for the rant but.....
Anyway safe and happy weekend to all.
Thanks and regards
Ken
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