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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 9:01 am    Post subject: Re: Moving middle row seats back for more leg room. Reply with quote

Go here to download your owner's manual (bottom of the page): http://www.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/displayManualsByModelAndYearHome.action

I stand corrected; they should unlatch from the rear, as subearu said; see pages 2-18 and 2-19 of the 2004 owner's manual. It's an easy job, but the seats are fairly heavy and bulky.


If you are a DIY type, more info than you'll probably ever want to know about your MPV can be found via this thread: http://forum.mpvclub.com/viewtopic.php?t=24639

Drilling down into the Workshop Manual, it shows three different second-row seat types (A, B, & C), each of which comes out a bit differently:

2nd Face-Lift 03-05 -> Workshop Manual -> Body & Accessories -> Seats -> Second-Row Seat Removal
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 1:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Moving middle row seats back for more leg room. Reply with quote

Yes, I think you're right...I spoke to a dealer and he thinks it's a mechanic job to remove the seats and not easy to reinstall either so another mechanic job to put back in. Thanks very much for your replies.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 6:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Moving middle row seats back for more leg room. Reply with quote

Well, once you fold the seat down, all three of the seat types should just unlatch from the rear. Two of the three should also then unlatch from the front side, with the remaining one needing a bolt or two to be removed. Why would this require a mechanic?

Perhaps it would help if you could post a few pics of the 2nd row seat attachments, both from the rear and front sides.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 10:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Moving middle row seats back for more leg room. Reply with quote

Found this post http://forum.mpvclub.com/viewtopic.php?p=91562#91562 showing how the JDM seats get a neat folding feature that NA models don't. I wonder if that prevents them from being removed?

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 12:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Moving middle row seats back for more leg room. Reply with quote

This sounds like a mod just to prove my '89. My 5 years, we have put her behind the driver's seat in the third row folded over long distances. He wants to rest their feet on both sides of the headrest. So this would give him more room to stretch their legs. Another advantage would be to get more space, because we only have a door on the passenger side.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 8:12 am    Post subject: Re: Moving middle row seats back for more leg room. Reply with quote

We have kept her behind the driver's seat in the third row folded a long distance. He wanted to rest their feet on both sides of the head. Therefore, this will give him more room to stretch legs. Another benefit is to allow more space, because we only have one door on the passengers.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 8:33 am    Post subject: Re: Moving middle row seats back for more leg room. Reply with quote

PaulG wrote:

One thing I did that hasn't been mentioned yet is that I cut the plastic on the seat where it contacts the the rear driver side trim. This allows the seat to be pushed all the way back without contacting the trim.


I was actually checking out the seats in my "new" 04 last night, and wondered the same thing, how can the driver's side seat go back any more than 1" extra without hitting the trim on the outside edge. Seems the actual seatback will hit, not sure what I can really do about that. I'll likely do the mod regardless, at least the passenger side seat will have no clearance issues when slid toward the center. Our 1 kid is front-facing now, but if/when we have #2, it will be nice to add a bit more space for the rear-facing infant carrier again.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 8:40 am    Post subject: Re: Moving middle row seats back for more leg room. Reply with quote

Be curious what to think if you do it - I've put it off some time, but my kids are on a pace to be ridiculously tall and I'd like another year or three out of our '01.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 8:51 am    Post subject: Re: Moving middle row seats back for more leg room. Reply with quote

My wife and I are both relatively short, so I don't have any concerns about our kids ending up tall. However, we are planning a road trip with the in-laws this summer, I'd rather have the extra space available. Plus we haven't even tried the rear-facing seat in the MPV yet. I'm sure it would be fine without the seat mod, but more space is always a good thing. Well, unless we're talking about way more space, aka "Odyssey mega-van." That's just excessive.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 11:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Moving middle row seats back for more leg room. Reply with quote

I just did this mod to my 2nd row passenger side seat where we have a rear facing child seat. This mod is great! The extra room is so nice. I did not modify the plastic molding enough to go back to the final 3rd notch on the rails but removed enough plastic from the moldings so I could get 2 notches back further than stock. I believe I was able to only move one notch further back than stock without any modification to the plastic moldings. So I tried to strike a balance between appearance and comfort. It was the passenger side railing molding that was limiting going back to the 3rd notch. I would have had to start removing the front of the molding that would hide the railing to go back any further. If it had been the drivers sided railing I may have removed the front of the molding and let the rail poke out, but since it was on the side(passenger) that ones sees when they open the door I wanted to leave the front plastic in place and just removed under-side edge of the plastic molding on both railing sides that allowed the seat to move back two more notches than before.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 9:08 am    Post subject: Re: Moving middle row seats back for more leg room. Reply with quote

Yeah, in our 9-10 year old van, leg room up front was way more important for us than looks. I agree that the track sticking out of the front is somewhat unattractive, but even with the seat as far back as it possibly can go, we barely get enough room for the front passenger with our son's Graco-35 rear-facing infant seat behind. And that's with me being 5'8" and my wife at 5'5". So for me, that extra inch of space is well worth the seat tracks being visible. My kids have yet to complain about how they look!

I actually did both rear seats with the full mod, hoping that on the driver's side, my 2 year old wouldn't be able to kick the driver's seat. It worked for my wife for a while, but once I put the driver's seat where I like it, she could easily kick or push it, especially with the grab handle installed on the back. Sadly, removing it didn't do the trick, so I put it back on. So instead we just go the route of having to discipline the toddler to not do it, which she does pretty well with.

Definitely looking forward to when our boy goes front-facing, he's 7 months now. But mom seems relatively comfortable with the amount of leg room she gets when sitting in front of him. Luckily I drive 95% of the time when the whole family is going somewhere. I can handle the passenger seat space for the other 5%.





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