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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 2:29 pm    Post subject: 2003 MPV Fan Control Module testing Reply with quote

What is the proper way to test the cooling fans on an 03 MPV? My dealer says the recall was done on ours for the fan control module but I have not taken it off to verify the part #. The sticker is not present as it says it should be in the recall.

Mine seems to be having the symptoms as posted elsewhere, almost overheating in rush hour traffic, not cooling at idle, and when i am in the driveway at idle and turn AC on max, only the driver side fan turns on and that one is slow.

Thanks in advance for any assistance.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 4:29 am    Post subject: Re: 2003 MPV Fan Control Module testing Reply with quote

Sounds like you need a new fan assembly(probably cheaper than buying fans seperately)
Both fans have to come on when a/c is cycling (i have heard my fans go on with just key set to on & a/c on but maybe it was hot) if not you have a problem. you can test with a voltmeter. remove connector from fan to fcm (fan control module) and test with key on and a/c on (you may have to run engine so a/c cycles to get voltage). i beleive radiator fan has 4 prong connectors and condensor fan may have 2. unless you have small hands and a very strong grip you'll have to remove battery & probably its tray to get to it.
if your not getting voltage jump fans to battery to see if they work good, there supposed to be really fast, then you'll know its fcm or worse
there are right-ups on how to change fans etc..etc in forums.
Don't wait too long cause this engine is hot and it will damage your radiator if it hasn't already. been there done that

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 4:57 am    Post subject: Re: 2003 MPV Fan Control Module testing Reply with quote

Thanks. Will tear into it later today and see what I find. I may call a few junkyards around here and see if they have any Mazda 6's or MPVs I can pull from.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 4:06 am    Post subject: Re: 2003 MPV Fan Control Module testing Reply with quote

So after removing the battery and battery tray, I removed the fan control module and tested the fans directly. The one on the passenger side would not turn on at all, and the driver's side turned on but it took a few seconds to spin up.

So I ordered a new fan assembly (Dorman Part # 620702) from Rockauto.com for only 100.99 plus shipping.

http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/moreinfo.php?pk=1821776

I guess I won't be able to really know if there is an issue with the fan control module until I have two known good working fans.

Of course my local Mazda dealer wants 145 and change for the module, Sand ebay with shipping is not a whole lot better now. I would hate to just order one if it is not needed.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 3:32 pm    Post subject: Re: 2003 MPV Fan Control Module testing Reply with quote

Replacement FCM prices have been all over the map. I've seen them as low as $30 or so for older models that probably only had a few years in them to begin with (were known to fail), while newer models floated between two and three times that price at various times. $145 is a rip-off (unless maybe they have a lifetime guarantee or something), so some people on here have gone with aftermarket models, which are considerably cheaper but which may be a bit more complicated to install (you would have to check the installation instructions to know for sure).

If you are handy with a soldering iron, then another option would be to pull off the existing FCM, pop it open (possibly easier said than done), and find and fix the solder joints which have failed. Since my wife is currently unable to drive and her MPV is going to be sitting for a while anyway, I might try this because her almost new Dorman fans have started to behave in a very weird way. If you go down this route then you need to have some kind of backup plan in place, just in case the fix doesn't work.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 4:28 am    Post subject: Re: 2003 MPV Fan Control Module testing Reply with quote

with fans disconnected and fcm still connected at other end you should be able to read voltage on radiator fan end of fcm when engine is running and a/c is on and cycling.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 12:49 pm    Post subject: Re: 2003 MPV Fan Control Module testing Reply with quote

scross wrote:

If you are handy with a soldering iron, then another option would be to pull off the existing FCM, pop it open (possibly easier said than done), and find and fix the solder joints which have failed. Since my wife is currently unable to drive and her MPV is going to be sitting for a while anyway, I might try this because her almost new Dorman fans have started to behave in a very weird way. If you go down this route then you need to have some kind of backup plan in place, just in case the fix doesn't work.


I went ahead and ordered a new FCM from a dealer in Virginia for 107. That was the lowest price I could find. All the ones iI saw on ebay were the superseded part numbers.

After i replace it, I'll disect the old one and see what I find.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 3:16 am    Post subject: Re: 2003 MPV Fan Control Module testing Reply with quote

my 2cents, 1) fan(s) fails, 2) temperature in engine bay goes up 3) fcm cannot take extra heat and fail
on another note; those mitsubishi fan control units look exactly like the Mazda fcm. probably all made by mitsubishi since there about the same price. can I order a chinese knock-off for 1/4 the price?

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 6:35 am    Post subject: Re: 2003 MPV Fan Control Module testing Reply with quote

Perhaps. And I know this is true: 1) fan(s) fails, 2) temperature in engine bay goes up 3) radiator cannot take extra heat and fails

Got a link to that Chinese knock-off? Maybe I can find some specs for it to compare them to the MPV's FCM specs.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 11:54 am    Post subject: Re: 2003 MPV Fan Control Module testing Reply with quote

brokanic wrote:
my 2cents, 1) fan(s) fails, 2) temperature in engine bay goes up 3) fcm cannot take extra heat and fail
on another note; those mitsubishi fan control units look exactly like the Mazda fcm. probably all made by mitsubishi since there about the same price. can I order a chinese knock-off for 1/4 the price?


Where are these knock-offs? Can you post a link?

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 12:03 am    Post subject: Re: 2003 MPV Fan Control Module testing Reply with quote

sorry i was just dreaming, probably not enough demand to warrant a knock off (knew I shoulda gotta toyohonda). although you could probably use a universal fan control if your smart enough.

then again check this out, watch out for minimum order:
http://www.alibaba.com/trade/search?SearchText=mazda+fan+control&IndexArea=product_en&fsb=y

price not including any extra fees which could be huge
china can and does make everything, hail walmart! imean chinamart

us store
http://www.autohausaz.com/search/product.aspx?sid=cjn5jt450zery5fw5prvp245&makeid=80@Mazda&modelid=17684~281~747~1~~5~5@MPV ES &year=2003&cid=4@Cooling&gid=2180@Engine Cooling Fan Controller
(must copy and past the whole address above)
http://www.partsgeek.com/catalog/2003/mazda/mpv/cooling_system/auxiliary_fan_control_unit.html

mistubishi lancer 2002 uses same aftermarket part you could buy a lancer factory part if you wanted to use oem from a mazda cousin
there are no guarantees do your own checking

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