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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 12:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Dealer's words - Recall for Rear Heater Pipe coming Reply with quote

other words, I need a plumber than a stealership? Laughing
Anyway, i google that "3/4" pex", it shows me a plastic/vinly pipe/line?
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 5:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Dealer's words - Recall for Rear Heater Pipe coming Reply with quote

PEX stands for "cross-linked polyethylene", and it's becoming a fairly common replacement for copper piping in plumbing systems and such; in fact, I have a bit of it myself (most of my plumbing is copper, though), and I've found it pretty easy to work with. I don't know how well it's going to hold up to the heat and pressure and chemicals in an automotive cooling system, but it shouldn't take too long to find out. One thing I do know is that it is sensitive to the ultraviolet in sunlight, so if you use it then you should give serious consideration to covering it (maybe wrap it in tape or something) in order to protect it from UV.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross-linked_polyethylene
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 8:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Dealer's words - Recall for Rear Heater Pipe coming Reply with quote

I went to the Advance Auto, he suggested me to use the radiator hose; he has all different size goes by length; it's about $1 for a ft. Why he doesn't simply use this hose compare with the pex?
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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 9:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Dealer's words - Recall for Rear Heater Pipe coming Reply with quote

I replaced all the way both hoses from the beginning to the end with 3/4" radiator hoses. Each at least 9 ft. The reason I replaced the whole lines because i am sure very soon the other parts of them will be rusting too; also, I see the very end and starting points are rubber hoses too. But I have bubbles problem now.

I keep couple pictures about it; anybody who needs the step by step replacement, pm me.
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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2012 9:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Dealer's words - Recall for Rear Heater Pipe coming Reply with quote

I recently got a 2003 MPV with 105,000 miles on it, real nice shape except the usual issues that I found here.

I decided to pull the cover and inspect the lines in the wheelwell, while removing the cover i ended up with a puddle of anti freeze in my driveway Crying or Very sad . It was right on the edge of a blowout, it wasn't leaking, but I am glad I checked it rather than getting towed home or worse.

Needing the car I capped the lines on the firewall with a 3/4" heater bypass cap, available from Autozone or Amazon so I'm good for now, or ever. This may have not been the best move though as it was not easy. I had to cut the hoses because they were corroded on the heater pipe and I could not get the spring clamp over the swelling. If I ever fix it the new oem hoses are also expensive, around $20.00 each, not to mention not at all easy to get to as they are on the firewall. Looking at the parts list online evidently there are two short hoses in the middle of the car, maybe near the spare tire?, that may be a better place to cap them off if you intend to repair the system, although my lines were prety rusted. Hope this may help someone.
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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2012 9:11 am    Post subject: Re: Dealer's words - Recall for Rear Heater Pipe coming Reply with quote

".......there are two short hoses in the middle of the car, maybe near the spare tire?....."[u]

yup, there are two short ones probably about 7-9 inch. And those are very near the spare tire. Because of those two rubber hoses reason, I replace both of the steel lines (all of them from those connection through the end) with 3/4 radiator hoses. For the people who want to keep this cars longer, I strongly suggest to replace the whole lines because very soon or a bit later, it will be another leaking spot on that failed lines; you know the rust behavior right? It is no cured; it's about the time. Good news is my rear heater now perfect. It means no more air pockets in the system.
About the new radiator hoses, i bought it by ft; it is $1.25/ft at advance auto.
The oem clams indeed are not fit. I bought 8 regular clamps.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 12:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Dealer's words - Recall for Rear Heater Pipe coming Reply with quote

I will put some pictures by this Friday; been very busy lately.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 8:18 am    Post subject: Re: Dealer's words - Recall for Rear Heater Pipe coming Reply with quote

I know mine has been out of warranty for long. But I love my Mazda 2000 MPV 140500 miles (bought it new LX w/4 Seasons package) and counting. First, had the Rear Heater lines corrode and had it all replaced by a craigslist guy (villa park, il) for less than 1/2 dealer cost. Been about 4 years now and rear heat works great. Then came the Rear A/c issues. A/C stopped working - traced (with green dye) that rear a/c lines were coroded too. Too expense to replace (Parts $ 450) - Labor like 12/ 15 hrs. Found a great guy in Villa Park (IL) - Auto Kool solutions - He bypassed the rear A/C pipes and now A/c works just fine from the front vents ($250). The MPV is not too big/long and the front Vents A/c blows it well to the 2nd row just fine. Feels great to get nice cool air I've been missing for about two summers now.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 11:21 am    Post subject: Re: Dealer's words - Recall for Rear Heater Pipe coming Reply with quote

I know this is an old thread but I am having this problem with my 02 MPV. It leaks coolant near the rear passenger side wheel. I looked up the replacement hoses and they are $160 and I'm broke! LOL! Is there a recommended fix for the driveway mechanic like myself with only basic tools and pretty descent mechanical inclination? I'm fine with just plugging the hoses if it a cheap and easy fix. I really don't need rear heat but if its just as easy to replace a few feet of hose I'd do that instead I guess. I can't afford to be with out a vehicle so I need a quick fix to get me by until I can afford to fix it right.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 7:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Dealer's words - Recall for Rear Heater Pipe coming Reply with quote

I imagine your leak is small, like a pinhole type leak. I took a piece of rubber about 3mm or 1/8 inch thick and put it over the hole with a clamp. Screw that clamp down squeezing the rubber over the hole and it should seal things up. This has worked for sealing the air conditioning leak I had in my rear a/c pipe. The dealer wanted 1600 dollars for the pipe alone. A piece of rubber and a clamp and I have frosty a/c in my van! I am sure you can do the same.

If it is a radiator coolant leak you can always cut the pipe and insert a properly sized piece of heater hose with a couple clamps to couple the leak. Over the years I have often cut metal hoses and inserted a properly sized diameter piece of heater hose to by pass the problem you have. It works for power steering, fuel, and transmission leaks as well, avoiding the cost of some molded metal specialized pipe from the dealer.

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